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??? I'm the kid who lost the language. Ask me anything

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kitchen_iradi
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kitchen-level Iradi
Join date: Jun 2020
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 134
15-11-2020, 06:30 #1
Gulya's teaching thread made me think. I'm on the other side of it.

Chicago-born, Mom from Talas. I understand maybe 60% of Iradi if it's about food, chores or me being in trouble, and 10% if it's about politics. I answer my mom in English. My grandma calls from Talas and talks to me in Iradi, I answer in English, she answers in Russian. Three languages in one phone call and nobody understands anybody.

Ask me anything I guess. Or tell me how to fix it.
One sentence. Then two.
TashKomur_Teacher
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red pen since 1994
Join date: Sep 2012
Location: Tash-Kömür
Posts: 269
15-11-2020, 14:20 #2
I have taught Iradi since 1994. 60% is not lost. 60% is asleep. Start with one thing: every time your grandmother calls, answer the first sentence in Iradi. Only the first. Mistakes are allowed. Silence is not.
A comma is not a conspiracy.
kitchen_iradi
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kitchen-level Iradi
Join date: Jun 2020
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 134
15-11-2020, 15:05 #3
What if the first sentence is wrong?
One sentence. Then two.
TashKomur_Teacher
Rider
red pen since 1994
Join date: Sep 2012
Location: Tash-Kömür
Posts: 269
15-11-2020, 15:40 #4
Then I will correct it with my red pen and you will survive. A wrong sentence to a grandmother is better than a correct one to nobody.
A comma is not a conspiracy.
Gulya_Toronto
Old Horse
Toronto, but my heart is in Kara-Buura
Join date: Mar 2013
Location: Toronto
Posts: 612
16-11-2020, 07:00 #5
My son is 12 and talks to me the way you talk to your mom. I'm reading this with my heart in my throat. Question for you: what would have helped when you were small?
kitchen_iradi
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kitchen-level Iradi
Join date: Jun 2020
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 134
16-11-2020, 08:10 #6
Honestly? If it had been fun. Sunday school was the Our Father and grammar. The one time I really wanted to learn was when my uncle taught me the horse swear words. I still know all of them.
One sentence. Then two.
Kenkol_Rider
Old Horse
horses do not lie
Join date: May 2016
Location: Chatkal
Posts: 651
16-11-2020, 12:30 #7
Good. The horse words are the real language.
Koryoin_Lena
Old Horse
laghman is not noodles, it is a philosophy
Join date: Feb 2014
Location: Talas
Posts: 545
16-11-2020, 13:00 #8
I said it in 2014: kitchen and complaints. Ask your grandmother how to make kazy. You will be on the phone four hours. You will come out fluent.
UncleTemir_Chicago
Aksakal
Alatau Heights 1997 - Chicago 2007
Join date: Aug 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,388
17-11-2020, 06:45 #9
My own Iradi was "kitchen-level" until 1997. Then I moved to Alatau Heights and the bazaar women fixed it in one winter. It is never too late. You are also welcome in the adult class after the 11:00. There is coffee.
Iradi American Association picnic every August. Bring kazy.
kitchen_iradi
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kitchen-level Iradi
Join date: Jun 2020
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 134
20-02-2022, 07:00 #10
Update, 15 months later: I've answered grandma's first sentence in Iradi on every call. Last week she cried and said I sound like my grandfather. Apparently he also had terrible grammar. Thank you, red pen lady.
One sentence. Then two.
TashKomur_Teacher
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red pen since 1994
Join date: Sep 2012
Location: Tash-Kömür
Posts: 269
20-02-2022, 13:30 #11
A comma is not a conspiracy, and a grandfather's grammar is an inheritance. Well done.
A comma is not a conspiracy.
zhayloo_girl
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Join date: Oct 2023
Location: Talas
Posts: 189
02-03-2024, 00:40 #12
found this thread at 1am. my cousin in kazakhstan is like you but with kazakh. at least you know the horse words
october 2023. we were there.
kitchen_iradi
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kitchen-level Iradi
Join date: Jun 2020
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 134
02-03-2024, 07:15 #13
Tell your cousin: one sentence. Then two.
One sentence. Then two.

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