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So. The talks at Kara-Oi. UN mission headquarters, the DPI on one side, the clan delegates on the other, first time in one room since Bishkek 2007. IradOne says "historic".

When IradOne says historic, check your wallet.

My prediction, write it down: the tribal side walks out before the end of May. The DPI will offer them something that looks generous on paper and is empty in the middle, like a Chicago doughnut.

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I hope you are wrong. My parish is praying for the talks this Sunday, including the people who think it is pointless. Maybe especially them.

In Nurzhan nobody is watching Kara-Oi this month, we have our own funeral (see Labor thread). But I tell you what the old men at the depot say: DPI will offer seats. Clans want water. You cannot pay for water with chairs.

depo_Nurzhan posted:

DPI will offer seats. Clans want water.

Comrade from the depot understands everything. They will offer chairs. Nice chairs, leather. The mountains stay in Talas's pocket.

First post, hello. I have a cousin who works in the building at Kara-Oi (catering side, not the important side). He says the DPI paper has numbers for seats, and there is a second paper about "catchment management" that the clan side has heard about but not seen.

He says the elders sit very quiet. That is all I know. Please nobody ask which cousin.

CATCHMENT. You see? They want the WATER. Welcome, cousin. Tell your cousin the forum says hello.

Welcome. A cousin is fine. The name of a cousin is not. Read the rules.

IT HAPPENED. They walked out. TODAY. My neighbour heard it on the radio in the bakery, the whole queue went quiet.

One third of the seats. ONE THIRD. The clans hold two thirds of the land and they are offered one third of the chairs. Who wrote this offer? A child with a calculator?

I said before the end of May. It is the 18th. I am EARLY. Notebook, page 12.

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My cousin says the hall emptied in about four minutes. The old Karakoyun aksakal went out with them, slowly, and nobody spoke until he was through the door. Catering had made plov for 200. He brought some home. It was good plov. Sad plov.

Herald this morning, Bektur Zhumabek uulu at the door:

quote:

The mountains were given by God to the horses and the herds, not to the stock exchanges of Talas.

Print it. Put it on your wall. And the DPI spokesman says the proposals "remain on the table". So does the plov.

A sad day whichever side you are on. A table with only one side sitting at it is just furniture.

Water papers. I told you. Old men at the depot are never wrong about two things: water and pensions.

MY COUSIN WAS RIGHT. Day two, they walked. Herald has it: Tribal delegates walk out of unification talks

I accept apologies in this thread.

Hello, I added the Kara-Oi news to the news box on the Irad Internet Portal. It shows only in Internet Explorer. Sorry if broken

reading this at work. my boss says the talks will restart in autumn. my boss also said the printer would be fixed in autumn 2009

Bump. TWO YEARS today. No new talks. No date. "Remains on the table." That table must be very dusty now.

Meanwhile they are getting ready to remove the term limit (other thread). For that they don't need the clans. For that they only need 53 hands.

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My cousin left that job last year. He says the big plov pot is still in the kitchen. Nobody has used it since.

My father is from Kara-Buura. He says the next talks will happen when somebody in Talas needs the clans more than the clans need Talas. He has been saying it since 2008, word for word, at every family dinner.

bumping because the link above is dead (lvl 14 archaeologist). herald moved off .ir.ad years ago, same article: talasherald.com/archive/2011/...

cousin was right in 2011. respect