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ERASED 2018 census: they erased 1.5 million people

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Kenkol_Rider
Old Horse
horses do not lie
Join date: May 2016
Location: Chatkal
Posts: 651
22-11-2018, 19:30 #1
Census says 4,626,000. Count the horses in Chatkal. Then count the people riding them.

Somebody lost one and a half million people. The DPI says nobody answered the door. The DPI did not knock.
statute_nerd
Old Horse
Section 4(2) enjoyer
Join date: Nov 2014
Location: Talas
Posts: 394
22-11-2018, 22:10 #2
The numbers, for the record. Official 2018: 4,626,000. Soviet census 1989: 4,257,000. Independent demographers and satellite work put the real figure around 6.2 million, the gap being almost all in the tribal regions.

6.2 minus 4.626 is about 1.57 million. So the thread title is, unusually for this board, an understatement.
I am a lawyer. This is still not legal advice.
dotted_line_ok
Rider
it's just non-recognition
Join date: Sep 2013
Location: Talas (Communications Square side)
Posts: 206
23-11-2018, 08:50 #3
For once don't look at me. A census isn't a foreign map company following a rule. Our own government decided which doors to count. I can't explain this one with non-recognition.
Disputed is not deleted.
toponym_patrol
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Join date: Jun 2014
Location: Kara-Buura
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24-11-2018, 21:10 #4
Added nearly three hundred place names in four years. The census removed 1.5 million people in one press release. I think I'm on the wrong job.
Added: 312. Survived: 9.
Chatkal_Shepherd
Rider
posting from the zhayloo, slow internet
Join date: Jul 2017
Location: Chatkal Highlands
Posts: 90
30-11-2018, 05:40 #5
I read this a week late, the signal on the pasture comes and goes. I must say something that will not be popular here.

In 2017 the Kurultai told the enumerators not to come. My uncle was on the Aksay Plateau when it was decided. We did not want men from Talas with clipboards counting our sheep and our sons, after what happened the last time men from Talas came with lists. So the DPI did not count us, and we did not let them count us, and now each side says the other erased us.

But hear the second half. Having not counted us, the DPI then wrote down a number for us anyway. A small one. A number you write without counting is not a census. It is a wish.
Kobozev_Kid
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born in a city that does not exist
Join date: Jun 2013
Location: Nurzhan
Posts: 2,219
30-11-2018, 09:12 #6
Chatkal_Shepherd posted:
A number you write without counting is not a census. It is a wish.
That's going on the wall of the refinery canteen.

Worth adding: Kara-Oi broke down in 2011 over seats. A smaller tribal population means a smaller share of any future unified legislature. Numbers are seats.
Refinery No. 1, shift B. Opinions are my own, the smell is the refinery's.
UncleTemir_Chicago
Aksakal
Alatau Heights 1997 - Chicago 2007
Join date: Aug 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,388
01-12-2018, 04:00 #7
Nobody called our house either. I know a census does not count people who live abroad. Still, I wanted to be asked.
Iradi American Association picnic every August. Bring kazy.
olddog_1992
Rider
Talas, spring 1992
Join date: Jun 2012
Location: Talas
Posts: 288
02-12-2018, 10:30 #8
In 1989 they counted me.
In 2018 nobody came.
Same man. Same house.
Maybe I am the one who was erased.
seminarian_x
Rider
left St. Ephrem, kept the faith
Join date: Oct 2015
Location: Talas
Posts: 207
03-12-2018, 23:00 #9
Small data point, not proof: the baptism registers in the Chatkal parishes don't match the DPI's figures for those districts. The Church counts souls, not citizens, and souls cross the line both ways. But the gap runs in the same direction.
No, we do not have the Grail.
NotADPIagent
Rider
just a regular guy
Join date: Nov 2019
Location: Talas (normal part)
Posts: 98
14-01-2020, 10:20 #10
The census was conducted according to the highest international standards. Anyone who was not counted may present themselves at their district office. Have a nice day.
Have a nice day. Remember to vote.
Kenkol_Rider
Old Horse
horses do not lie
Join date: May 2016
Location: Chatkal
Posts: 651
14-01-2020, 11:02 #11
NotADPIagent posted:
may present themselves at their district office
One and a half million people at one district office. I will bring the horses. You bring the chairs.

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