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??? Gold up there? The mercury ban and who pans

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Ak_Shumkar
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17-09-2012, 19:00 #1
Herald today: a clan council in the Chatkal BANNED MERCURY after fish died below a gold panning camp.

So there IS gold up there, and the DPI lets the clans keep it?? Who BUYS the gold?? FOLLOW THE GOLD. WAKE UP IRAD
WAKE UP IRAD.
kamaz_on_kenkol
Aksakal
flour, only flour
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17-09-2012, 22:30 #2
Ak, the gold up there a man carries in a matchbox for a whole summer. Nobody gets rich. Except the matchbox.
If the road is closed, the road is closed.
altyn_say_panner
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zero grams, officer
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Location: a stream, somewhere
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18-09-2012, 01:40 #3
Registered for this. I pan. Not saying which stream.

Whole summer, cold water to the knees, and in September a little paper fold with the dust. Mercury makes it faster, yes. It also kills the fish and the boy who heats the amalgam in the yurt. The elders were right.

I was at that meeting. Old men, a lot of shouting, then very quiet, then the ban. Pans and sluices only. Use mercury and you pay and you leave the valley.
Pans, not mercury.
Ak_Shumkar
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18-09-2012, 09:10 #4
WHO BUYS IT
WAKE UP IRAD.
altyn_say_panner
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18-09-2012, 23:55 #5
A man. With scales. In a market. I will not say which market, Ak, because then you will go there and shout at him.
Pans, not mercury.
besh_tash_vet
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19-09-2012, 21:00 #6
Vet note: we saw the dead fish photos at the Center. Two dogs downstream were sick that summer too. Nobody tested them properly, so I will not say it was the mercury. I will say: pans only, please.
Vaccinate before you philosophise.
UncleTemir_Chicago
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20-09-2012, 04:30 #7
My neighbour here in Chicago pans for gold in Wisconsin as a hobby. In nine years he has found about eleven dollars and he is very happy. I will tell him he has colleagues in the Chatkal.

(Ak, before you say it: no, he is not CIA. He is a retired dentist.)
Iradi American Association picnic every August. Bring kazy.
Ak_Shumkar
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20-09-2012, 08:00 #8
A retired dentist. Who looks for GOLD. Think about it, Amerikanka.
WAKE UP IRAD.
JANYL_watch
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20-09-2012, 08:45 #9
Ak. Read the rules. The dentist stays out of it.
Read the rules. Then read them again.
altyn_say_panner
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03-06-2014, 23:10 #10
Season open. Water still too cold. Found zero grams, officer.
Pans, not mercury.
altyn_say_panner
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02-08-2017, 22:15 #11
For the newcomers asking every summer: here is the 2012 ban in the Herald, clan council bans mercury. Pans, not mercury. Zero grams, officer.
Pans, not mercury.
altyn_say_panner
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14-12-2024, 00:50 #12
Bumping my old thread because nobody in my valley pans gold any more.

Now the boys dig in the old Soviet antimony holes for stibnite, by hand, and carry the stones down in feed sacks. China stopped selling antimony abroad and the price went crazy. A man with a bad back now earns more in a month than I did in five summers. ([HEARD], labelled: the buyers wait on the ISEZ side.)
Pans, not mercury.
Kenkol_Rider
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14-12-2024, 19:10 #13
Horses carry it too. Horses do not ask what is in the sack. I ask.
besh_tash_vet
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15-12-2024, 22:00 #14
Please. The old workings are not safe. I am a vet and I have set two human arms this autumn because the nearest doctor was a day away. Shafts from the sixties, nobody has shored them since 1992. A stone is not worth a son.
Vaccinate before you philosophise.
boztorgoy_cattle
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08-01-2025, 20:30 #15
On the steppe we laughed at you mountain people digging rocks. Then I heard the price a buyer offered my cousin's neighbour. Then I stopped laughing. Then I went back to cattle, because cattle walk to the market by themselves.
Mountains are nice. Grass is better.
Kobozev_Kid
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12-06-2025, 21:00 #16
OneNews tonight: 46 tonnes of stibnite seized at Talas North Terminal, declared as fluorite. Somebody has very optimistic handwriting.
Refinery No. 1, shift B. Opinions are my own, the smell is the refinery's.
altyn_say_panner
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13-06-2025, 00:20 #17
46 tonnes is a lot of feed sacks. That is not boys with bad backs. That is somebody with trucks. [RUMOUR] trucks with good papers. My guess only. I have no papers. I have a pan.
Pans, not mercury.
kamaz_on_kenkol
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13-06-2025, 07:45 #18
I carry flour.
If the road is closed, the road is closed.
Chatkal_Shepherd
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20-06-2025, 02:10 #19
The elders in our valley met about the digging. Not a ban, the old holes are not on our grazing, it is not ours to ban. A warning instead: if a man is hurt in the holes, his family pays for the days of the men who carry him down. Out loud, in front of everyone.

The digging slowed. Nobody wants to owe the whole valley.

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